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    November 12, 2008

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    Tommy Ooi

    We are facinated by your machine , is this peritonial dialysis ? how often and many days they have to do it ? we have 19 dialysis centre and are interested to know more about your product. Thank you

    Tracy Lynn

    It is indicative of my basic personality that I was all OHHHHH, SHINY when I saw the picture. I am such a tech whore.

    Deborah A Clay

    My son has been on home hemo for 22yrs. He is 25 now and doing great. Iam very interested in newer machines available for home use. We have the Baxter Tina now. Can't get parts anymore. Please educate me on your machine. I use D.I tanks and dialyze him every other day. No interested in next-stage, daily dialysis. Can you help?

    MooseMom

    Does this machine still exist? I've never heard of it, and the original post is dated 2008, so did anything ever come of this?

    John Agar

    There are two machines expected for commercial release either in late 2011 or early 2012.

    (1) the Fresenius + RSI + 'Xcorporeal' machine (I wont give its likely name here) ... which is a sorbent-based desktop portable designed initially by Xcorporeal. Xcorporeal was then bought out by Fresenius who have subsequently modified the system and have incorporated RSI's sorbent technology for dialysate regeneration (as I am on the Medical Advisory Board of this development, I can assure it is a very nice machine). It is designed with home nocturnal 8 hr treatments as its specific target but will clearly allow shorter therapy times too. It has a wide range of dialysate flows to an easy 500ml/min flow rate using regeneratable dialysate via a sorbent cartridge. It requires no fixed water source, no R/O, no dialysate other than that which is prepared from ~6L of tap water and is all that is required for each full 8-9hr treatment, and clearly also needs no drain. All it needs is 6L tap water and a power source.

    I published a primer paper on sorbent dialysis for the Asia Pacific readership in Nephrology in mid-2010: Agar JWM. Understanding Sorbent Dialysis Systems. Nephrology (Carlton). 15(4): 406-411. June 2010 for those wishing a simplified explanation of how sorbent systems work.

    The second machine to be available shortly (I believe also planned for commercial release later in 2011 or early in 2012) is the Baxter portable system - based on the very nice but now defunct Aksys hot water sterilization system developed for the old Aksys PHD (Bill will well remember this machine in the late 90's through till 2006). This, too, is a desktop model, small, portable and well capable of the full range of dialytic modalities, sessional lengths and frequencies.

    Both are desigend for the home market. Both have simple user interfacing and use a similar cassette line and dialyser system to the NxStage machine. While the NxStage is best suited to short hour dialysis, these will both cater more easily with longer hour programs, as I understand (and know).

    The UK has a machine (the Quanta) ... you can Google it ... which seems nice while there is also a South Korean portable, capable of HDF (a specific bonus for the Australian market which is very HDF-alert) and which is also coming fast.

    Hope that is a brief answer to your question.

    Keep your ear to the ground. There is much coming!

    MooseMom

    I don't think my kidneys will hold out quite that long; if I don't have to start dialysis sometime this year, it will be a miracle. I want to do home hemo with the NxStage machine; my clinic offers training and my neph likes the clinical results a patient can get. I don't know how this works...if I were to start NxStage and then a more marvellous machine comes on to the market next year, as a general rule, is it easy to switch machines? Do nephs just hate that, or do they not really mind such switching?

    Peter Laird, MD

    Thanks John for the update. It is very difficult to find any information on any of these new machines that we all know are coming down the system. I look forward to seeing the specs on all of these systems to see if it is going to be a step above the NxStage. I am sure NxStage is not just sitting back as well. It will be an interesting time in the next couple of years and with all of this competition, we may actually begin to see a sizable number of patients taking dialysis home.

    John Agar

    Switching shouldn't be an issue if that is what you decide to do. There would be an inevitable period of familiarization and retraining and, clearly, you and your team would have to (a) be convinced of any benefit/risks of any change and (b) appraised of any costs (short/long-term) that may accrue to either you or the service that cares for you.

    Make no mistake, the NxStage is a good machine. It is, however, within its greatest comfort zone for frequent, short-hour dialysis. As I prefer (and believe in) frequent, long-hour dialysis, I still think that the NxStage has some short-comings in that area.

    No single machine (yet) is all things to all men ... or all things to each situation. I doubt that will ever be the case. All equipment has is own short-comings and strengths. This is one of the reasons why I am so against machine-centricity. In my view, it is the global dialysis milieu, the total hours per week, the outcomes in survival (first) and in the sub-outcomes like rehabilitation, symptom relief, return to work, return to 'life' (second) that matter ... and not the technology by which one gets there. All dialysis technology is good (though clearly from what I have just typed, all dialysis technology has its faults and all could be improved.

    The advent of the new machines and the new and certain focus of the big manufacturers and equipment designers on home, simplicity and miniaturization that gives me hope that more and better is really on its way.

    'On its way' means 'coming' ... and coming means 'not yet' ... and not yet means some will miss the new wave of 'stuff in the pipeline'. For the individual, this is frustrating, worrying and in the end, sad. For the future patient, however, it is bright, hope-giving news and will be worth the watching.

    kathy heffner

    I look forward to the competition....I like the idea of a lighter machine.... more portable.... I use Nxstage now and go alot of places... and it is somewhat bulky but still possible... I still love home dialysis and I have encouraged many people to give it a try....

    MooseMom

    I understand what you are saying, Dr Agar...I am not so much interested in the specific machine as I am in the fact that any machine at least gives the patient the opportunity for self-care at home. We are awaiting the FDAs approval for the use of NxStage in nocturnal dialysis. Using it for frequent, longer hour dialysis is already a reality. The head nurse at the clinic I will be using has already told me she could train me on how to use it for extended hour dialysis.

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