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    roberta mikles

    Bill, I, too, was surprised as I read through the 52 comments and noted content. Even some had almost exact wording. I urge and have been telling all about the kidneypublicpolicy101.com as it is a terrific resource that has been made available. Also, Mark Neumann making available Homeward Bound. Yes, p.o. meds are important, indeed. However, all must remember that this proposed rule can affect their life. I fully understand the reasons for this rule, however, our group also has many concerns because as we know, in the past, meds e.g. Epo were not administered in the best interest of the patient (of course not all facilities). However, will this rule possibly impede further the correct dosage of med (other and all) administration because of these meds being included? Hopefully NOT because of the connection to anemia management outcomes/reimbursement. But, if facilities are not making the profit-margins that they desire, will this be put first before the well-being of the patient when it comes to ordering medications? Labs need to be addressed also and all must understand the importance of a physician being able to order a lab when needed without feeling restricted in doing so. Many patients require additional labs, perhaps weekly. Hopefully, medical justification will suffice in some respect if the patient does not meet CMS criteria. Many units order extra supplies for patients e.g. coban if tape can't be used post dialysis, etc. If units stop this many patients might not be able to afford such. Home dialysis training and other areas also need to be recognized. There are just so many other areas, in addition to oral medications, that need to be addressed. I hope that people realize that and play the devil's advocate when reading through the rule because this can, in reality, in our group's opinion, affect the patient and not positively in every respect.
    Roberta Mikles, RN,
    Advocates4QualitySafePatientCare
    www.qualitysafepatientcare.com

    bill chramer

    have there been any comments on its effect on home dialysis (PD or HB) yet? in my mind, this is one of the most important issues with the bundled rate so i'm somewhat surprised oral meds have been the focus.

    Zach

    This is what the proposed bundle rules say about drugs and travel (pg. 363):

    "In addition, we would expect that ESRD facilities would coordinate the provision of renal dialysis service drugs on behalf of traveling patients to facilitate ongoing compliance with the plan of care during periods of travel."

    roberta mikles

    This, statement alone,(identified above p 363) leaves alot open to interpretation and decision making on behalf of the providers.

    But, We (Advocates4QualitySafeCare) again, are aware of reasons for the bundling, however, WE EXPECT, (and hope) in light of this major change (PPS), that CMS has taken into account the effect, both positive and negative, that patients might experience as a result of this proposed rule.

    After reading through the updated comments there still appears to be a major, if not all, focus on oral drugs. Isn't anyone concerned about travel? IV meds? Lab work? Other indicators of quality safe care besides anemia and adequacy?

    Roberta Mikles, RN
    Advocates4QualitySafeCare
    www.qualitysafepatientcare.com

    Bill Peckham

    If fine words on paper was all it took to ensure "compliance with the plan of care" during travel people wouldn't have their epo withheld today.

    The lab piece could be addressed by having a menu of routine dialysis related labs covered under the expanded payment and allow the lab to directly bill CMS at 100% for labs preformed outside the list. In that way labs related to travel would be separately billable by the labs even though they have been ordered by the MCP physician.

    CMS has a very elaborate Fistula First initiative that is making good progress to increase fistula placement and use. Fistula use is one thing that strongly correlates to survival in the DOPPS data. Fistula First recommend the best practice Save your blood vessels:

    You have a limited number of places on your arms and legs where a doctor can create an AV fistula. Take steps to protect those places so you can use them in the future. There are things you can do now to save your access sites and keep your options open.

    The most important way to "save your access sites and keep your options open" is to minimize the use of your veins for blood draws. CMS should allow the MCP physician to order non ESRD labs. These labs should be drawn during hemodialysis treatments and the lab should be allowed to bill CMS and be paid 100% - no copay.

    One other thing I was stuck by reading the comments is that for the most part they did not offer solutions or advise on how to make including oral meds work. There was some recommendations given - limit oral meds to those with IV equivalents. Even people pointing out the lack of any bone measures in the proposed quality element did not turn that around and offer the advise to include measure x or y if binders are included under the bundle.

    Pointing out that bone measures need to be included if binders are in the bundle and then suggesting the measures that would be needed e.g. calcium x phosphorus sum, pth, helps push back against their inclusion but it is also in keeping with the spirit of the enterprise.

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